MacBook Pro with M1 Pro and M1 Max review: laptop of the year

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Apple’s new MacBook Pro 14 and MacBook Pro 16 are a triumphant success - they have excellent performance, stunning battery life, useful ports, and incredible displays. The only knock against them is you’re going to pay a lot for all that good stuff.

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0:00 Intro
0:26 Specs & prices
0:51 Design & hardware
3:08 Mini LED Display (and the notch)
7:32 Speakers
8:00 Processors
9:22 Benchmarks
12:27 Gaming
13:38 Video Editing
16:06 Final Cut Pro
16:33 After Effects
17:03 Battery life
19:37 M1 Pro vs M1 Max
20:32 Conclusion

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  • Andre Ellis
    Andre Ellis2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay 'The Verge'. This is an amazing presentation. Multiple personalities who know what they are speaking about. Beautifully shot and edited. All angles of the product plus answering your audience's questions. Perfect review

  • onnie1968

    onnie1968

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    @Ashley Dale she needs a bra not so amazing chest either lol

  • Walid Fakhfakh

    Walid Fakhfakh

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    @dandansfu the dance full view 2016 volitional the old example mini Stillwater's non-example Canada

  • Walid Fakhfakh

    Walid Fakhfakh

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @brailrice systematic and Tireman open today since I'm very sleepy cuz he's amazing go to snow

  • Aziz Aja

    Aziz Aja

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Ashley Dale Apple & Samsung

  • GaminHasard

    GaminHasard

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Agreed!

  • Dmitri Arekhta
    Dmitri Arekhta2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This review is a masterpiece. However, it has a huge bias towards creators. These laptops could be a huge win for the developers as well and this part of the story remains untouched.

  • Valdo Raidy

    Valdo Raidy

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    i think thats just because they are video creator and not a music engineer or some other proffesional that really can take advantage of m1 power

  • Zaakiya C

    Zaakiya C

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It can also be good for non-softwear engineers, too.

  • Linkinii

    Linkinii

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Because they are bought out. Their bosses are paid or sponsored/funded by apple. They won’t go against the company in any way.

  • Karan Joshi

    Karan Joshi

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everyone is after the creator fever.

  • Tomás Apolónia

    Tomás Apolónia

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Matthew Mers yes. How does fusion360 run? How’s parallels/bootcamp? Maybe some rendering with blender?

  • mango 305
    mango 3052 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should test to see how it runs engineering and architecture programs. I would like to see how the M1 max handles programs that require intense 3d rendering and how it can handle creating huge CAD documents

  • Captain Velli

    Captain Velli

    3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Waiting to see

  • Mark D

    Mark D

    9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Blaast Not if you can't get the software natively. ProE, Catia, Solidworks and Inventor don't have mac native software

  • Michael

    Michael

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love it if there were a bootcamp option or if AutoDesk would make Revit for macOS.

  • Sai Namuduri

    Sai Namuduri

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nope. Anything that's Windows native, which is pretty much EVERY CAD/CFD/FEA program ever, simply isn't made for this architecture. It simply doesn't work.

  • Noah P

    Noah P

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would also be interested in seeing 3d modeling performance and Unity support

  • MetalJesusRocks
    MetalJesusRocks2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m a heavy Final Cut user and so this is extremely tempting, but I’m still waiting for a 27” iMac Pro version of the M1. Very exciting times for us video editors!

  • Ed

    Ed

    10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Anmol Kamo I think it was the intel i mac pro they discontinued

  • Aarav jaswani

    Aarav jaswani

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Uhh new leaks suggest that thee is not going to be one for another 2 years just an FYI but I could be wrong

  • Walid Fakhfakh

    Walid Fakhfakh

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Smartdog ma5ibek

  • Manic Mania

    Manic Mania

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn’t expect to see you here lol

  • MINI SKY

    MINI SKY

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Patrick Butler HAHA I NEED IMAC ,BUT I CANT WAIT AND SAY NO TO THIS MACBOOK PRO

  • Gio San Pedro
    Gio San Pedro2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a Premiere user, I'm so grateful we're getting more Premiere-centric Mac reviews like this! I mean, it's jaw-dropping to see FCP running crazy fast on a Mac, but that is almost always a given

  • Pat Mifsud

    Pat Mifsud

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you disappointed by how much slower premiere is to export and how much worse the general timeline performance is when compared to other software?

  • Jeff Barbose

    Jeff Barbose

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's a given only because FCP uses Metal. If Adobe used Metal in the same ways, you'd see the same magnitude of performance.

  • JSyntax

    JSyntax

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ditto

  • Just Bobby.T

    Just Bobby.T

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Agreed!

  • Victor Laforteza

    Victor Laforteza

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Render times are still slow on premiere. Editing is quite smooth though.

  • Victor Escobedo
    Victor Escobedo2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was an amazing review. I loved the use case focus and letting experts each share their experience and their very specific recommendations. It hit everything I was curious of and it makes me feel very comfortable understanding the pros/cons of each model from the MBA with M1 up to the MBP 16 with M1MAX. Given how complex all of this is, that's an absolutely incredible accomplishment, fantastic job to everyone that worked on this!

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  • Google One
    Google One2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *These Macbooks were off the charts!* _Proceeds to show a chart_

  • Slushyiie

    Slushyiie

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well don't take it literally lmao

  • slap my nuts

    slap my nuts

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    facts bro. smh.

  • Bazz Bazzers

    Bazz Bazzers

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "...at least they _were_ off the charts, until we performed the elementary task in chart-making of scaling the chart axes to accommodate the data we wanted to display. And frankly, even this was an automatic feature of the chart-making software we were using. In many practical senses, these numbers were _never_ off the charts. The Verge apologies for our misleading statement of 45 seconds ago."

  • Eye of the Tiger

    Eye of the Tiger

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be great if someone would actually say that line and then show results that literally go off the chart

  • Nick
    Nick2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for comparing the 16" M1 Pro battery life to the 16" M1 Max battery life! This is the first review I've seen compare those two. I picked the M1 Pro because I assumed its battery life would be better than the M1 Max, and now this proves it. I don't need the GPU power, but I can definitely take advantage of the battery life.

  • Nxet

    Nxet

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So are you guys saying the m1max batteries is worse or a little worse cuz I want the max but not for poor battery life

  • Marshall Sutcliffe

    Marshall Sutcliffe

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    @MarkR watch it again, it’s 6 hours difference reported in this video between the 16 pro (16 hours reported) and 16 max (just over 10 hours). The non-standard testing hurts here as they simply aren’t equivalent tests as you said.

  • MarkR

    MarkR

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    The difference in battery life between the M1 Max and M1 Pros tested in this Verge video is marginal (just 30 minutes). Indeed, most other credible video reviews to date suggest the difference is minor. Yet, Nilay seizes on this minor discrepancy to argue that the Max chips are power-hungry compared to the Pro chips (even when not being used for graphics). This distortion of the relative battery performances will turn many buyers away from the Max - even though they may be better off with it.

  • Aalin

    Aalin

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    I don't think it was a reliable test. We'll have to wait and see.

  • Dingwen

    Dingwen

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    @THmy Kullanıcısı 18:15 (If you go to "battery" section it's right there)

  • Alexandre Cunha
    Alexandre Cunha2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Guys, great presentation, but it would be nice if next time you also included benchmarks for other non-content creation tasks (or games), such as development and programming. The relative time the notebook takes to run a more "math code" is also important.

  • Axiom

    Axiom

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    @Joshua Reveles He didn't even say gaming LOL

  • Jonathan Baird

    Jonathan Baird

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    @Joshua Reveles Don't be daft. Yes, these are primarily professional workhorses, but the chips are every bit as powerful for entertainment. Most people don't work 24 hours a day, so providing additional insight into entertainment apps wouldn't be completely out of the question.

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous

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    @Joshua Reveles lol. So, basically these laptops shouldn't even support gaming, movie watching as well as any kind of software developments? Drop your holier than thou attitude for gods sake. They make these machines to sell and even though they are more tuned towards content creators, they are intended towards normal users and programmers as well.

  • Joshua Reveles

    Joshua Reveles

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    Gaming performance is irrelevant on these machines. You’re not buying these to game, you’re buying these machines to do work and be productive.

  • MAN45
    MAN452 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just got my base 16” M1 Pro yesterday. The speakers blew me away. Very impressed with the screen, speed and battery life. Great upgrade on my 2018 15” Pro.

  • MAN45

    MAN45

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    @Philip Zimmermann Congrats dude, you’re gonna love it.

  • Philip Zimmermann

    Philip Zimmermann

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    Damn i get my 16" M1 Pro in 2 days, upgrading from a 2013 15" mbp :D

  • rhemy1

    rhemy1

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    What is your Ram

  • Faisal Rana

    Faisal Rana

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    i just got the same thing!! I went from a 12" MacBook to an m1 air to a 16" M1 Pro Base. My goodness this computer has a nice big screen. Im still not sure about it tho.. cuz: 1. I have a dock.. i don't care about ports. My printer and flash drives are all have converters attached to the ends. 2. I have a big screen and can use that with my m1 no prob.. so really the only advantage I'm getting is when I'm using it in bed. 3. I am from a time when the smallest devices were the most incredible. I loved the 12" MacBook.. my goodness.. (my use case used to be youtube and the occasional word doc) 4. $2500 5. Battery life was great on my m1 too.. don't have any high impedance headphones. Ill probably keep it tho because my use case now is software development.. It really helps to have a bigger screen when coding.

  • B D

    B D

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    @MAN45 Well played.

  • iLorah
    iLorah2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was a fantastically produced review - Well done!

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  • Andrew Codrington
    Andrew Codrington2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for a great review. Identifying the battery life difference between M1 Pro and Max was particularly insightful. @Nilay / @ Monica - I'm surprised the extra 16 GPU cores could drive a ~6 hour (40%!) battery life difference. How confident are you that this difference is mostly attributable to the power draw of the (presumably often idling) extra GPU cores, rather than reflecting differences in how you each used your assigned laptops? Is there any chance of you swapping models for another couple days of typical workload to confirm? Reviewing battery life is obviously as much an art as science, so don't want to nitpick. But would be good to sense check this somehow, given it's both a really important insight, and (at least to me) surprising in magnitude.

  • Albert Tong

    Albert Tong

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    Hope this answer this very important question regarding the battery test accuracy.

  • Patrick Willmann
    Patrick Willmann2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah this review was spot on, and I appreciate how thorough it was. The conclusion on the M1 Max seems to be settling on: If you need to ask if you need it, you don't need it. That aside, I'm really glad to finally see a MacBook Pro lineup where getting the smaller one doesn't relegate you to lesser internals. Now you can get a total beast in a 14" or a 16" form-factor. The 14" with the M1 Pro is pretty much my dream laptop. I've always found the 13" disappointingly under-powered and the screen just a bit too small, but found the 15" and 16" way too big. I can't justify upgrading from my 2020 Intel 13" anytime soon, but damn I know what I have to look forward to.

  • Munro McLaren

    Munro McLaren

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So I got the base model M1 Max chip because I’m an upcoming filmmaker. Should I not have gotten that? I can’t cancel my order anymore. Like is the battery difference that significant?

  • Martino Wong
    Martino Wong2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing review! It answered all my doubts especially with real world AE performance…only gripe is that there are no numbers for the 24-core gpu M1 Max, but still helped me a lot for deciding which to get

  • Movie Blues

    Movie Blues

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    YOU're thinking like I'm thinking. The Max gives you insane memory performance - for every element of the chip - whatever the number of GPU cores.

  • aPortraitOnTech
    aPortraitOnTech2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for one of the best reviews I've seen! Specifically, detailing the Pro and Max versions. I ordered the Max, but can cancel. As the Pro's battery life in this review is very tempting.

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  • seraph127
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    The observation about how the Max model consumes rather more power, thus shortening battery life, even if one is not doing graphics-intensive work, is an important of information.

  • randfee

    randfee

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would also like to learn more about the battery life behavior (invariant of screen size, just Pro vs Max!)! Two different people working on the machines doing different things is hardly a good comparison.

  • pmd2

    pmd2

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @MarkR I got the M1 Pro 16" and deeply regret it, the battery never dies so I'm just continuously being productive, it's really wearing me out, you've been warned.

  • MarkR

    MarkR

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes, this is critical information that will weigh heavily on many peoples’ purchasing decision. I was torn between the M1 Pro and M1 Max, and will now get the Pro having watched this video.

  • Lloyd Hobden

    Lloyd Hobden

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd like to see this confirmed and quantified. There's also the possibility that "racing to idle" might make the Max more productive or even offer greater longevity in GPU intensive tasks. Also, does RAM config play any part in battery life on these Macs?

  • Jeremias Menichelli
    Jeremias Menichelli2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tremendous job folks, I hope you do this "not hitting review days" more often, it really shows your stuff know tons about these products, but in the past years I felt lots of reviews were rushed, even the recent iPhone 13 ones. But this is sweet, again I hope you make decisions like this more often, thanks for this

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    WhatMACHI2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was an awesome review. Thanks for all the effort put into this! Great choice of comparisons and tests.

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  • Fernando N.
    Fernando N.2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally a review that really matters! I was looking for a designer perspective and I'm really happy to see someone showing the performance on Premiere and After Effects. Thanks Alix and The Verge.

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  • Philip Gedarovich
    Philip Gedarovich2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review, these are the tests and benchmarks I've been waiting for! Actual real world true performance tests. It would be nice to see some more GPU focused benchmarks, such as 3D GPU rendering with Redshift or Octane, and GPU video exporting with DaVinci Resolve.

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  • LomarVGC
    LomarVGC2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun fact the maxed out M1 MAX 16” is is cheaper that the maxed out i9 Intel 16”

  • Sriracha Hero

    Sriracha Hero

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    @micomen i feel Intel will dust themselves off and gain their composure but it’ll take a while. Won’t happen soon but they’re a big enough company to claw back as long as their leadership is strong enough.

  • rloi

    rloi

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    Yes pls, i can't even believe m1 mac become the cheapest option on the market right now, so worth it

  • Michael Babiuk

    Michael Babiuk

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ​@Wiley Lynch great analogy! But I bet you lust after the M1Max MBA and know when you drive a Honda Civic that you settled for a boring transportation compromise. Sad grin.

  • micomen

    micomen

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    intel clowned themselves! Time for them to step up the game and maybe in 5 years have an ARM based SOC 5nm chip.

  • Wiley Lynch

    Wiley Lynch

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yeah and a Ferrari is cheaper than a Bugatti. STILL going to buy a Honda civic.

  • Jose B
    Jose B2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be great for future reviews, to have the perspective of a software developer, mostly working with virtualized environments.

  • super hero

    super hero

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Anthony Chambers They can't afford to hire engineer(s) to test. That is just crazy. They should test what they know best and give us a feel of what it could be.

  • Daniel Springer

    Daniel Springer

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes please

  • snoozy A113

    snoozy A113

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    That would be great, I think we got to see a little bit of that in Apple’s livestream event but definitely not in depth and with daily usage. I would really like to see and animator’s and digital illustrator’s perspective as well. With the “content creator” perspective from mostly everyone on THmy doesn’t give me any more insight for what artists and developers actually use it for.

  • Home Arathy

    Home Arathy

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    Why virtualized local environment ? Either cloud or native os

  • Michael Garry

    Michael Garry

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    As well as software developers not working with virtualized environments as that's pretty specialised.....

  • Jordan
    Jordan2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing to also note here, and in the future is that for security professionals -- the M1 chips do not support virtualization of x86 machines -- only ARM based .isos can be used. Virtualbox and VMWare have both stated they don't plan to support M1 to natively virtualization x86 or emulate it.

  • Jasterrrr

    Jasterrrr

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    This is a deal braker for many software or web developers who run stuff locally.

  • Hodaviah

    Hodaviah

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    They say that now… once no Mac is on x86 and Microsoft start really pushing ARM they will change their tune…what happens when no new machine is running on x86

  • Quaime V. Lee
    Quaime V. Lee2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks! Your reviews are consistently fair, with data that makes sense to multiple levels of consumer, and you project and honesty and integrity from so many others out there who seem like sales folks for one manufacturer or other. Keep it up!

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    J C2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is one of the best reviews you guys have ever made.

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  • Josh
    Josh2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A brilliant video, as can be expected! Loved the professional input!

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  • Imran Sahil
    Imran Sahil2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quality Review. Appreciate the in-depth reviews from different people with different work flows

  • Manh Hakchareun
    Manh Hakchareunหลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this information. I edit videos and do some after effect for work and wasn't sure which one to get. I currently have a 2014 15" and still use this machine for editing 4k video. It lags sometimes but still works. I'm sure the base 16" is more than enough for now and the future.

  • Alin Popescu
    Alin Popescu15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Absolutely the best review of these laptops. As a professional (photo and video productions) I was looking more into real life usage than numbers from benchmarks. Your Senior Editor did a great job explaining her experience while using these new M1 chips and laptops. I was ready to sell my maxed out MBP 16 i9, but the prices went way downhill with the hype, so maybe I'll wait for the next gen before switching to Apple silicon. At the school I work we've just received some new iMacs with M1, and I can't wait to test them a little bit in real life. Thanks again for this complete reivew! Long time channel zapper, but now I've subscribed!

  • leecm
    leecm2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find it hard to believe that these companies can put great tiny cameras in phones but they can't do better than a 1080p camera on their flagship laptops.

  • Nick Hess

    Nick Hess

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    plus the thickness of a laptop display lid is far less than a phone. Put your iPhone next to your Macbook lid, it's 2-3x thicker.

  • Alex Liang

    Alex Liang

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    The difference is that the demand of front facing cameras on phones is greater than it is for laptops. People will pay hundreds more for better selfies or triple back facing cameras while laptop webcam quality is often an afterthought. Additionally, one can just buy better webcams and connect it so the people who need better conferencing will do so.

  • Neeraj Sripuram
    Neeraj Sripuram2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the deep analysis! Most useful in the decision process. Is the $1999 model any good ? Or should we just go with the 2499 model in the 14”?

  • thejose
    thejose2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You know it's a big deal when Nilay himself reviews it. I'd love to order a MBP 14" soon :)

  • ufinc

    ufinc

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well we all know he's getting extra pay from Apple to do this.

  • chipotleman
    chipotleman2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The new Macbook Pro 16 is a masterpiece. I'm so glad to have it. Apple has really put the "Pro" back into Macbook Pro. I love it.

  • KM
    KM2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice, one of the few THmy reviews i've seen that's not just blind hype with the same content for affiliate link money, but also shows some problematic aspects to consider. Compatibility to external devices(like audio interfaces) can also be worth mentioning - there is tons of stuff still missing osx arm adapted software that requires lots of workarounds to function like on intel macs. Good Job the Verge!

  • JohnyTechReview
    JohnyTechReview2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great review with lots of good info through a great presenter! Good job guys!

  • Kr1sGat
    Kr1sGat2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best review I’ve seen on THmy. Concise, straight forward, clear, and cohesive. Great job, subscribed

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  • Betty-Ann Bryce
    Betty-Ann Bryce2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice review, I appreciate hearing both sides and not just all hate or all love. I picked up the 14 inch m1 pro 1TB. This is an upgrade/ downsize from my 27inch 2013 imac which was running slow. I wanted to be more mobile. I am positive it is too much for me but I just love it. I used my imac mostly for photoshop, corelpainter, clipstudio pro plus light room etc and that will be the case here.

  • C M R
    C M R2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A great thorough review. The one test that is missing from all reviews I've seen is related to the use of multiple external monitors. I would like to see the performance on at M1 Max with 4 external 4K displays.

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  • Jason Swaby
    Jason Swaby2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Appreciate the review. It’s been the best so far and has switched me from getting the max to the pro chip. I develop software, and would only need the GPU for simulators and emulators. Nothing as hard core as video editing and exporting.

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  • a
    a2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    'M1 Macs" vs "M1 Max" is going to be a problem

  • Sriracha Hero

    Sriracha Hero

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If i had the money, i’d buy an Apple M1 Max Mac. But i may need multiple Apple M1 Max Macs. If I had multiple Apple M1 Max Macs, I would distribute my workload among them thereby Maximizing my use of my Apple M1 Max Macs. (i could really go for a Big Mac right about now).

  • Sonal Maheshwari

    Sonal Maheshwari

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    I feel like Apple is overusing the words 'Pro' and 'Max' and they've started to feel cheesy now.

  • J

    J

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @a you meant M1, M1 Pro, or M1 Pro Max? Either way no serious person is going to hang up on it unless they’re one of those simpletons looking for a serious problem where it doesn’t exist

  • a

    a

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Tony “oh it’s apple silicon? nice. so do you have the m1 pro or the m1 macs?”

  • Uche John Onuorah

    Uche John Onuorah

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    @Tony who ordained it the proper term?

  • Tomas Baranauskas
    Tomas Baranauskas2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video. It was really helpful to see these tested in a real-world use. I was wondering if you could recommend a great external monitor for this laptop please?

  • Rahul Duggal
    Rahul Duggal2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The preview left me wanting for more, but this review is absolutely FANTASTIC! Well done Nilay & the whole Verge team!

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  • panic0112
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    Feel much better about my decision to purchase the 16" M1 Pro / 32GB immediately when they started taking pre-orders. Many of the other reviewers have said it's a no-brainer to pay $200 more for the M1 Max if you are already upgrading the memory. I simply couldn't justify it. I don't need the extra GPU cores or extra monitors. Maybe for the extra memory bandwidth, but only if there was no other downside. But I also had the thought that the extra GPU cores would be a drain on the battery even when not in use. Thanks for doing a thorough job testing and confirming this!

  • Prof Pigeon
    Prof Pigeon2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ive been using a 16 inch max with 32gb of ram for work for a week, editing on resolve. Pretty much unstoppable, I love it so far. Was thinking about more ram but this feels fine

  • Krs Dee

    Krs Dee

    7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is 32GB enough for lightroom work?

  • JB Nelson
    JB Nelson2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like the gaming portion is very misleading. I agree with the statement that these are not gaming laptops and other laptops hit much higher frames. HOWEVER Shadow of the Tomb Raider at 1080p highest settings and hitting 80+ fps is very playable and is even more impressive as it’s not running natively on Apple Silicon. This is a good sign and we should be encouraging game devs to start taking developing for Macs seriously. Do not buy these laptops for gaming, but if you do buy them, they’ll be far from a bad gaming experience. I think the displaying of comfortable frames in games should be a sign of what’s to come.

  • Alberto I

    Alberto I

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Wes That is not true !

  • Nguyễn Hoàng

    Nguyễn Hoàng

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    @Rocky this monitor it not meant to be a gaming monitor so yeah

  • Rocky

    Rocky

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The mini LED screen has bad ghosting from what I've seen and it doesn't look like you can turn off V-sync. Response time and overshoot is unknown. If all you care about is FPS than I suppose it's better than nothing?

  • Nguyễn Hoàng

    Nguyễn Hoàng

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @iSteve Yang I mean that the game need to be compatible with gamepad in order to play on Macs since iOS games doesn't support keyboard and mouse.

  • iSteve Yang

    iSteve Yang

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Nguyễn Hoàng The previous generation macOS has provided relatively complete gamepad support capability. If Apple wants to promote this, all it has to do is give game developers something profits

  • Omer Subasi
    Omer Subasi2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First time that I loved a Verge review: it is objective and detailed!

  • Marb's Music
    Marb's Music2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It really depends on the game, if you just play MMOs and a few light games the ones that have been optimized for ARM work fantastic on the 10/16 models - WoW, Diablo 3, FFXIV and Hades all work fantastic. I agree definitely not hard core gaming machines but good enough if you need a break from editing :)

  • Paper Melon
    Paper Melon2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you a million for relating everything to premier pro. It’s really awesome to hear real world results with it since my workflow is all over that

  • momentollogy
    momentollogy2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are literally the FIRST channel to do an After Effects benchmark with these machines. Finally!!! Thank you so much! Adobe JUST released a beta of AE which is M1 native - can you please please do a similar export and post the results below this comment? Would be so grateful!

  • Nilay Patel

    Nilay Patel

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We didn't include it because we just didn't know how informative it was -- results were basically the same as the new release version with multicore GPU support, but it's a beta so... maybe things will change.

  • Milo-
    Milo-2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I personally found the touchbar pretty useful and used it quite a lot. People just hate seeing things change i guess even though they complain when things stay the same as well😂

  • Ian
    Ian2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for doing this review from such a video editor's (specifically Premiere and AE) perspective! Just hit checkout on the 16 inch M1 Max, now to just wait until December for those shipping times 😅

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    Melmix Pita2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yay! The first not rushed awesome and in depth review. Finally! Thank you :) By the way I saw a poll which indicated that the majority of people buying this has gaming as the primary factor. I love Mac, but gaming has just been lacklustre. The games I want to play works either natively or through Rosetta2 or Crossover and the gaming performance is finally sufficient. Yes it's expensive, but honestly considering what people throw after iPhones and similar every year, using this amount of money on a device I'm keeping for 5+ years seems like an easy choice for me.

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  • mav3ri3k
    mav3ri3k2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like how verge brings on some real pros to review tech they cannot properly make use of. 👍

  • Darren E. Mathews
    Darren E. Mathews2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review, Guys. I learned a good deal of new information from this powerful and comprehensive and real-world performance review.

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  • Xavier Mathews
    Xavier Mathews2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video as usual. I’ve come to expect nothing but the best from the Verge. I love Niley honest opinion at the end.

  • Devs
    Devs2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent review. Really helped me with my decision. It’s so easy to convince yourself that you need the super most fastest. I’m going with the M1 Pro 16

  • crazy comments

    crazy comments

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Fife I am pulling your leg. Looking at houses is similar saying I am watching this video while using MBP M1.

  • Fife

    Fife

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @crazy comments You bought a $4000 laptop to look at houses?

  • crazy comments

    crazy comments

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I did and been using it for many many (50) hours looking for a house to purchase and the fans did not kick on yet. It is a fast and quiet machine. Have fun!!

  • Mohammed Alsrihi
    Mohammed Alsrihi2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much this is the only video that make me to take a decesion between the 14" and the 16", i was about to purshase the 14" with 1TB but when i saw the battery usage i decided to go for the 16" 512 M1 pro as you said "the sweet spot" battery is really importent for me :) you have gained 1 subscriber keep going with this great high quality reviews i really appreciate it

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  • william brown
    william brown2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Went with the 16" Base model More then enough great screen great speed for working. Speakers great too !

  • Adrian Kyle Abaja
    Adrian Kyle Abaja2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Curious to see how well these MacBooks perform if games are optimized.

  • Alan Schmitt

    Alan Schmitt

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    @Baptiste Fourrier In theory, sure, but one only needs to spend a few hours with iPadOS to know that Apple doesn’t have a real interest in letting that platform be a true laptop replacement.

  • Adrian Kyle Abaja

    Adrian Kyle Abaja

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    @Baptiste Fourrier yeah, especially on the ipad since there's the m1

  • Baptiste Fourrier

    Baptiste Fourrier

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    @Alan Schmitt I disagree. Making a game for Mac apple silicon, would allow to publish easily this game on iPhone and iPad.

  • Alan Schmitt

    Alan Schmitt

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    Games optimized for ARM feels… Improbable. The market just isn’t there to support the costs involved, AFAIK.

  • Aditya Devaguptapu
    Aditya Devaguptapu2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Verge, maybe on the next set of reviews (or as an addendum to this review), try also including a Blender benchmark? Apple recently became a patron at the Blender foundation and there's work to provide a Metal backend to the cycles render engine (i.e. the photorealistic render engine that's part of blender). I think that would be another good test to have, given that nVidia and AMD GPUs have a bit of a grasp of this space...

  • joelom

    joelom

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Aditya Devaguptapu but sadly its almost too true haha

  • Aditya Devaguptapu

    Aditya Devaguptapu

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @joelom Not gonna lie. You had me in the first half 🤣

  • joelom

    joelom

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    no, not allowed. only reviews about video editing are allowed. no other professions with a need for an apple laptop exist. exporting video is the only true way to show a computers power. /s

  • Manuel Trujillo
    Manuel Trujillo2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to see an AI processing test , that forces the GPU and I think would worth it for AI developers

  • Sorwis
    Sorwis2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The difference in idle/desktop use battery life between M1 Pro and Max is interesting and makes me more in favor of the Pro model.

  • Crescent Beach
    Crescent Beachหลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow! Finally got to this after viewing other reviews. Didn't think I needed to see it, which might be true, but is beside the point. This was a brilliantly realized review. Kudos to everyone involved. I won't make the same mistake in the future.

  • Nabeel Ahamed
    Nabeel Ahamed2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Outstanding review. The Verge really is on another level compared to these other media outlets on THmy.

  • Mo Yusuf
    Mo Yusuf2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love that you made a premier pro vs Final Cut Pro mini comparison with the performance. Amazing.

  • Christofer Yie
    Christofer Yie2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great comparison! However I wish they also include some benchmark for Logic Pro.

  • Ben Gibson
    Ben Gibson2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dude, this is the best laptop review I've ever watched. super helpful exactly what I wanted to see

  • Niketan Rai
    Niketan Rai2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was a great review ! Good job verge.

  • Brian Jones
    Brian Jones2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent review-great consideration of all the pros, cons, and everything in-between. Thank you for your work!

  • Uche John Onuorah

    Uche John Onuorah

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So do you know anything about thermals? Performance outside of video editing? How about coding performance?

  • Rafael Valle
    Rafael Valle2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thats a great review, thank you. you are almost the only review with some real stuff that is more like what I need to now. Many thanks to include Adobe After Effects charts and great tests and comparison. Cheers!

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  • Larry J B
    Larry J B2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd love to hear how performance on the new Macs compare if DaVinci Resolve were used as opposed to FCPx and Premiere

  • micomen
    micomen2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best review out of all the tech reviewers! Great job! They answered all my questions!

  • brailrice

    brailrice

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    Probably the least informative in depth review available.

  • jonnythegreek1
    jonnythegreek1หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic analysis that really helped me determine which flavor of the new MBpro to get. I do a ton of editing in FCP and zoom calls for work.

  • Adhi Narayanan Y R
    Adhi Narayanan Y R2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome! I didn’t expect such an unbiased review from verge: it was also elaborate and meticulous. Thank you verge team!

  • Duc Thanh Vu
    Duc Thanh Vu2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After this video, i see that Air model is still the best for me, as a basic user. Great review, btw 😄

  • Dmytro Kuiko
    Dmytro Kuiko2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best review I've ever seen! 😍 Thanks for the amazing work!

  • Reynaldo
    Reynaldo2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Classic review for a classic device. Great job guys!

  • Steve Robins
    Steve Robins2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the most useful MacBook Pro I’ve seen this year, especially the battery discussion. Thanks!!

  • JZBZACK
    JZBZACK2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the best review I’ve ever seen from you guys. I had buyers remorse but y’all fixed that. Can’t wait to get my new Mac!

  • Connor Halleck
    Connor Halleck2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish you guys would do After Effects dynamic link and other animation and compositing workflow tests. I'm more interested in caching frames with lighting or particle effects than exporting. Exporting can be done on a render farm. Caching and playback has to be done locally.

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  • Hayden Cohen
    Hayden Cohen2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    v interesting that the 14" seems to outperform the 16" with the same Pro (rather than Max) processor

  • Fredde

    Fredde

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In one of the charts the 14 outperform the 16 max too for some reason, so I think thats wierd af tbh.

  • Dave Bryer
    Dave Bryer2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice clam review, I liked it. I bought the 14 in pro chip model to replace an 8-year-old MBP, when it arrives I plan on being amazed at how much better it will perform.

  • Robby Huang
    Robby Huang2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the very detailed Premiere breakdown! That’s just what I needed to know.

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  • Tristendo
    Tristendo2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a broke college student the M1 MacBook Pro 13” is still perfect for my needs but I am so happy with the direction Apple is going with this!

  • Scuba Travel
    Scuba Travel2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the review! TOTALLY GETTING THE MAX! Perfect for 4k video editing!! 😍😍😍

  • Jay NC
    Jay NC2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This review came together quite nicely. Nilay, Monica, and Alix made clear, concise explanations of their research and testing.

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  • Adam Glazier
    Adam Glazier2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I'm only using the MacBook for audio, is there any benefit from having the higher memory bandwidth in the M1 Max? If not, I'll just get the 16" M1 Pro with 32 GB of RAM.

  • Suhas Anjan
    Suhas Anjan2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At this point, it's a waiting game. We need to push softwares to really fit with the new M1Pro and Max chips. Unless this happens, I won't purchase the Mac.

  • Leon Francis
    Leon Francis2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The windows laptops used in the benchmarks had half to a quarter of the RAM and were 20% to 50% cheaper than the MacBooks.

  • Sam Ho
    Sam Ho2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The display of the new MacBook Pro is very good on everything beside the response time which is incredibly slow. From RGB 0 to 255, it takes over 100ms. It doesn't make sense for a 120Hz display. To display a reasonable sharp moving image, a 120Hz display is required 8.33ms or lower response time. Even a 60Hz display has better response time then MacBook Pro display. By the way, it is almost the best laptop display on current market for content creator. I believe that they can tune it to have better response time by overclocking the display panel a little bit.

  • PhazonBlaxor
    PhazonBlaxor2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome machines. Too bad I hate MacOS - 5 years of using the late 2016 MB Pro 13" and the UI is just so clunky and far from user friendly. Not very eager to shill another 2500€ to them either, not when it feels like Apple killed my device. It's gotten laggier and battery life worse with each major update. I'm still at 85% designer capacity, but it dies in under 50 minutes of Lightroom editing from full battery. Also eats 1% battery per hour lid closed. I really don't get the hype for Macbooks, my whole experience has been quite bad right from the beginning. Besides, I eish it had touch + pen, drawing 2D game assets isn't ideal with trackpad. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • Shane Harder
    Shane Harder2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about Davinci resolve? It’s newest version has already been optimized for the M1X chips. I’d love to know how it compares. Adobe products are kinda the worst, with the exception of AE, as shown by this video.

  • Conrad Taylor
    Conrad Taylor2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As far as I know, Tomb Raider isn't optimized to run on M1, M1 Pro, or M1 Max. However, that's an impressive score for the M1 MAX laptop running under Rosetta 2. If it was running natively on M1 Max, I'm guessing that one could easily achieve 100+ FPS on 'Shadow of The Tomb Raider".

  • TracePhoto
    TracePhoto2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    14” M1Pro 10 Core w/ 32 (UM) seems like a really good spot for power, efficiency and portability.

  • Caden Churchill
    Caden Churchill2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am so happy that Apple’s not making sacrifices to make their Macs as thin as possible anymore. Improved thermals, ports, and an excellent keyboard make a thicker/heavier laptop so worth it. I do still feel the M1 Air will be overkill for the majority of people (including me). Still super powerful, great battery life amazing keyboard, great display, ports are good enough for me at least, and it’s so much cheaper. For once I actually feel Apple’s “pro” laptops are actually really worth the money for those who need the better displays/power, and their consumer-level Air cuts out just enough to lower the price considerably while still offering an amazing set up. I do wish the Air got a 120Hz display though as it’s one of my absolute favourite features of my iPad Pro.

  • ruzzell907
    ruzzell9072 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's just a matter of time when most apps will be optimized for M1.

  • nchia
    nchia2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As much as I’m impressed by the MacBook Pro’s performance, I’m more impressed by the Verge’s technical staff’s expertise and presentation skills.

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  • Tyler Jacobs
    Tyler Jacobs2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve watched the verge for years and I have to say this review was absolutely incredible. A true work of art

  • Lucius Augustus
    Lucius Augustus2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only reason why I want to maybe get the M1 Max is that additional memory bandwidth

  • RL Fernandes
    RL Fernandes2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review and insights. I just missed a 3d graphics, non-gaming opinion. I know it's more niche but still... also, just for kicks, a parallels benchmark comparing against native Windows software would have been fun lol

  • ミヤ

    ミヤ

    2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree. The verge says its good for creative tasks and bad at gaming, but it might be that it's good for just video editing and bad for 3D.

  • Uche John Onuorah

    Uche John Onuorah

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    The serious 3d softwares don’t run on the Mac, since they decided to not allow boot camp support. But even this review should have mentioned that unless they never cared about that to begin with

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