Elizabeth Holmes and the fall of Theranos

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After a long trial, Elizabeth Holmes has been found guilty of four out of the 11 charges brought against her. But this is only half of the trial, with Holmes’ business partner, Sunny Balwani, getting ready for the same legal fight. The Verge’s deputy editor Liz Lopatto breaks down the trial and what to expect in the months to come.

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Watch more from our Theranos series:
Defrauding investors: $945M lost, who's to blame?: bit.ly/3JM7Zfn
Theranos’s invention never would have worked. Here’s why.: bit.ly/3eJ0DuK

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  • The Verge
    The Verge13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How do you think this will impact the trial of Theranos' former President, Ramesh Balwani?

  • Jethro Morquecho

    Jethro Morquecho

    10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Worse

  • just kidding

    just kidding

    12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    imagine thinking jail is the solution... beast-world

  • Grim Alteruism

    Grim Alteruism

    12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    clearly she been scapegoated and what gonna happen next to us to cover for all this

  • Alan Gaeta

    Alan Gaeta

    12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Alan gaeta belmontes

  • Royster

    Royster

    12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @aayaatable it was Xerox who invented the GUI in the 70s.

  • z
    z13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Of course, in America it’s ok when you cheated people’s money. But when you cheated rich people in America, you go to jail. Don’t get me wrong, she should pay for her wrong doing.

  • Jerod Wolf

    Jerod Wolf

    2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't think she's gonna go to jail for a long time, and she's gonna get an easy sentence like Jordan Belfort. It's a joke that people who are convicted of using marijuana or hard substances are in jail for decades while rich people who are insane criminals just take an extended vacation in a facility

  • Jaz Delilah

    Jaz Delilah

    8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's a bit more complicated than that. She was found guilty of deceiving investors for financial gain, and having the intent to do so. Her direct actions and words were said and done with the intent to deceive them for money. When it comes to patients, there is no clear case to be made that she /as a person/ lied to patients to /financially/ defraud them. There is STILL a case to be made on how Theranos defrauded patients or harmed patients, it's just not this one...

  • Will Chin

    Will Chin

    8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    well i guess if you cheat rich ppl, they have more money at their disposal to hire top lawyers to get things moving much quicker...whereas poorer ppl need to make a living at the same time ..........

  • Maden Smith

    Maden Smith

    9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Patrick Yip when both parties are at the palms of corporations

  • Pete

    Pete

    9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A lot of people say that, but I’m not sure that’s completely true. A lot of juries would be more sympathetic to average people getting cheated and having their lives ruined as opposed to the super rich getting cheated. Most of her investors didn’t even try to sue her, they just let it go. What does screw her though is that with these rich people there was a lot more money involved and the large amount of money will be effect her sentence

  • THOMAS THE TANK ENGINE
    THOMAS THE TANK ENGINE13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The fact that there is a possibility that she won't get jail time shows how crooked our "justice" system is. And the fact that this person was giving her praises is beyond me

  • A N

    A N

    8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Tobi yes you are wrong. It is not just a failed investment, she committed fraud. Fraud is not a civil charge, it is criminal and therefore can lead to jail time.

  • Oladotun Aboaba

    Oladotun Aboaba

    10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Feminine agenda fellas … that’s what it is

  • THOMAS THE TANK ENGINE

    THOMAS THE TANK ENGINE

    10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @James G I didn't know that. People are sick indeed

  • James G

    James G

    11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Most serial killers in prison have huge followers of fans. This is no different. People are impressed by sociopaths for some strange sick reason.

  • Erik Jon

    Erik Jon

    11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @The Crazy Russian you ain't lyin. IMO there would not be any of this hypdr up made for tv.drama series about any of this psychotic chit

  • Dante Bradley
    Dante Bradley13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It shouldn't be a wake up call for start-ups, if they run a legitimate product. These investors have no one to blame or punish, but themselves, for their own negligence.

  • Ride or Dis

    Ride or Dis

    9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They were lied to over and over. The liar has zero accountability according to you?

  • Kevin J. Dildonik

    Kevin J. Dildonik

    12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Silicon Valley is a pyramid scheme. Everyone knows it. Companies like WeWork don't even pretend to have a plan to make money. They just sell a concept, and hope to bail out so they can leave someone else holding the bag.

  • Mark Azali
    Mark Azali13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is really embarrassing for whoever invested. They enabled her to sell snake oil to regular people.

  • Goahead

    Goahead

    11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Like the former Amway CEO's wife Betsy Devos, a seriously crooked person. Pyramid scam company.

  • Knives

    Knives

    11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @The Johnson exactly

  • 1 1

    1 1

    11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Jan Sonshine *bigly

  • Jan Sonshine

    Jan Sonshine

    11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Also, they were ripped-off big time!

  • 1 1

    1 1

    12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @The Johnson teach me

  • Rex H
    Rex H13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How telling that the only fraud she's in trouble for is that against investors.

  • Sun Bear

    Sun Bear

    4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Diggo It's pretty straight forward if you read the comment I was responding to. Jurors are told to judge whether the law put forward by the state was broken or not. Not whether any other people were wronged, whether a law is just to begin with or any other reasons. Google jury nullification and you will see why the system is broken (or more likely end up defending a broken system).

  • Jaz Delilah

    Jaz Delilah

    8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's a bit more complicated than that. She was found guilty of deceiving investors for financial gain, and having the intent to do so. Her direct actions and words were said and done with the intent to deceive them for money. When it comes to patients, there is no clear case to be made that she /as a person/ lied to patients to /financially/ defraud them. There is STILL a case to be made on how Theranos defrauded patients or harmed patients, it's just not this one... To give patients justice, they would need to indict her for different counts.

  • Diggo

    Diggo

    10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Sun Bear I don't really understand the distinction you're making. To be guilty of a crime is to have violated the law in question. I agree that there are points of failure which decide whether a person is ever tried or convicted of a crime. The police investigation, the prosecutor's decisions etc but is that the system or the people within that system?

  • John Doe

    John Doe

    11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well yeah, she defrauded investors which is a crime. Was anyone seriously injured or killed because of her actions?

  • Pat Mifsud

    Pat Mifsud

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Rex H I agree that the justice system has some terrible flaws that bias against regular people. but the Jury was presented with cases from the public against Holmes the verdict was either not guilty or undecided, so hard to place the blame on the system in this specific case imo.

  • Drew Beck
    Drew Beck13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It should be a much bigger wake-up call for investors and financiers. Focusing on the founder here removes the true culpability and source of game - the amateur magical thinking of the worlds wealthiest.

  • noorul qureshi
    noorul qureshi13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Supported and promoted by her own clan in wall street, media and power corridors as always they do to one of their own. This time a whistleblower ex employee with conscience and an honest journalist didn’t let them go away playing fraud with health issues of millions of patients. Hats off to those two individuals.

  • Lechiffresix six

    Lechiffresix six

    10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pitajee Noorul. hats off ? she is not in jail . she is not going anywhere that's the problem

  • Ajwadd Anwarr
    Ajwadd Anwarr12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My issue with the case is all the charges were defrauding investors and none on the faulty blood test she gave to actual patients

  • Sheriff Lobo

    Sheriff Lobo

    2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It says a lot that she wasn't charged with practicing medicine without a license. The whole premise of this was, "You can do all this yourself, you no need no lousy money-grubbing doctors." The AMA must be well-bribed to not be throwing a fit about this. It's sad to see how compromised the medical profession is these days.

  • Adrian Morales

    Adrian Morales

    9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel sorry for the patients. They should sue. Imagine being told you're sick or perfectly healthy when in reality it's the exact opposite?

  • Questing_Infinitum
    Questing_Infinitum13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Title should have been "wake up call for investors rather than startups"

  • 1974chateau Boudreau
    1974chateau Boudreau13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The last episode of Bad Blood the Final Chapter - podcast by John Carreyrou features an interview with Tyler Schultz. He talked about what she put him through and how she ingratiated herself into his family via his elderly grandfather.

  • Susan W

    Susan W

    10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That is mentioned in he book Bad Blood.

  • Andreas
    Andreas13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Given that white collar criminals almost never see jail time, it would be fresh to see her get some time in the slammer...

  • Jordan Willis

    Jordan Willis

    7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Martin Skreli and Jordan Belfort have entered the chat.

  • Nedwin L.H.

    Nedwin L.H.

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Powerhouse lol

  • Powerhouse

    Powerhouse

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    AFTER ALL, Women deserve fair equal treatment as Men don’t they…?

  • water melon

    water melon

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Lechiffresix six yomama

  • Lechiffresix six

    Lechiffresix six

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    if they have melanin they do get jail time.

  • apuleus
    apuleus13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    While there is no question that Holmes is a sofisticated con artist, no one is asking some key questions that are crucial: - How can a sofisticated investor invest $100M without any serious due diligence? - where was the board of directors? How come over all these years they never asked the right questions? - Why didn't the board react to the fraud allegations and start an inquiry? In fact they did the opposite and wanted to silence the whistle blowers instead of listening to them. Remember, companies make money buy selling products and services, and investors make money by selling companies and stocks in these companies whether they make something or not. One possibility is that the investors and board members knew all along what was going on and given all the hype and publicity about the company and its valuation before the fraud case came to light, they were hoping to do an IPO and stick it to the public: the investors, Holmes, and the board members would have became filthy rich, and all the small investors, retirement funds, etc who would have invested in the IPO would have eaten the dust down the road.

  • deth

    deth

    10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Space Faring Civilisation if I was on the board I would plead ignorance as well. Doesn't make it true though it's more likely that they didn't want to know answers trying to make it to Ipo or get more investors.

  • apuleus

    apuleus

    11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Ash If you show me a document with the logo of a company that you say supports you, the first question that comes to mind is "did they sign a contract with you?" If they are that supportive and excited about the technology, they should put their money where their mouth is.

  • apuleus

    apuleus

    11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Space Faring Civilisation you don't need to be a subject expert to ask for the right questions. Here are some: - Why didn't they land a contract with the pharmaceutical companies they collaborated with (Pfizer, Plough, etc...)? - What do the reports from these companies say? - Why didn't the military sign a contract to buy their systems if the test results were good? - Why not open an inquiry after they heard from the whistle blowers?

  • Alex

    Alex

    11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @The Johnson >> new ground medically Blood testing is decades old discipline

  • Ash

    Ash

    11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    - How can a sofisticated investor invest $100M without any serious due diligence? Idk, I think thats the whole point of the case. Fraud. They were sold an idea based on more than lies, there were fabricated documents with logos of other companies on it, etc. Don't get me wrong, personal responsibility and diligence is still a thing. I just feel like people forget the concept of fraud

  • J A
    J A13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s a wake-up call for investors to simply ask for a demonstration of the product or service … and see the results rather than relying on a CEO from simply presenting Powerpoint’s to raise money.

  • I amcarbonandotherbits.
    I amcarbonandotherbits.10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    She did a good job of describing the traits of a sociopath though she probably didn't mean to.

  • DaRyteJuan
    DaRyteJuan10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maybe you can’t know for sure which of these startups is a fraudulent money pit, but if the CEO fires the CFO and doesn’t hire one for several years like at Theranos, there’s a pretty good chance there’s something rotten in Denmark.

  • Michael Hollender
    Michael Hollender13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Strange the only guilty verdicts are for defrauding investors, not human beings. Probably coincidence.

  • coscos
    coscos13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was a big scam and a lie. Not a start-up

  • annoyedok321
    annoyedok32111 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Verge helps promote these startups and only does the investigative journalism after the story breaks. This is only going to get worse as journalism has been replaced by PR media sources like The Verge.

  • Prad G

    Prad G

    9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Exactly

  • Prad G
    Prad G9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How does the jury system work? Are they experts from the jndustry in which the case is or just random people? If random people (from what jve seen in movies etc) how are they qualified to deliberate on these kind of matters? How she is pronounced not guilty on patient misinformation is just beyond me.

  • Y S
    Y S13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Health-tech startups are gonna be under more scrutiny and face more skepticism. Perhaps it should be like that though. I think remaining startups may continue to have that Silicon Valley style of product development and fundraising.

  • Levvis Ballhare

    Levvis Ballhare

    9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gee ya think?

  • Shawn P M
    Shawn P M13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting how she got charged on counts that won't negatively affect corporate executives today. Eg: frauding patients.. The system is a joke.

  • Follower of Pooh (tsm1989)
    Follower of Pooh (tsm1989)13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not a wake up call for startups, more like just another news for the fraudsters.

  • Cristina Garcia
    Cristina Garcia2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing analysis, thank you!

  • Anchit
    Anchit13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not really, most of her investors were not Silicon Valley investors who are good at going through books of a startup.

  • ntnwwnet
    ntnwwnet13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @ 0:36: Holmes wasn’t found innocent of anything. She was found not guilty. It’s a subtle but huge difference. edit: "deputy editor Liz Lopatto" should absolutely know the difference.

  • BlessedAgni

    BlessedAgni

    9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @ntnwwnet erm innocent until proven guilty by definition means, she’s considered innocent until she’s found guilty. So if they’ve not found her guilty she’s innocent

  • Mahir Shahriar

    Mahir Shahriar

    10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is Verge don't take them seriously.

  • ntnwwnet

    ntnwwnet

    10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Gele Haas Correct, innocent until proven guilty. The jury still didn't find her innocent though.

  • Manthi

    Manthi

    11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:59 to 2:09 "she is not going to serve time in jail........no she is going to jail." am like WTF.

  • Gele Haas

    Gele Haas

    12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's innocent unless found guilty

  • Paul Gibson
    Paul Gibson9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The only reason I watched this video, which is very informative, was to learn about the results of the trial. But a person from the outside wouldn't have a clue about this video because it doesn't explain what Theranos actually did, what their business was based on....didn't even mention a blood test????

  • Sheriff Lobo
    Sheriff Lobo2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It says a lot that she was found innocent on all of the patient-abuse charges but is getting hit for defrauding a bunch of rich people whose quality of life was 100% not affected.

  • Law
    Law13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just think. The while rest of us were trying to create real startups. Turns out to get a A-lister to play you in a Hollywood movie, you just need to commit massive fraud or be a serial killer.

  • thomas aquinas
    thomas aquinas10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Since the 'go-go' 80's, start-ups and IPO's have adhered to the formula of having a great purpose(today, often with a partial charitable purpose), some figure head to lead the way, some facility, and a patent. From this, we've gotten great companies like Genentech, and others like the untold number of companies that folded, many of them never to even reach market.

  • Becoming A better Human.
    Becoming A better Human.12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video was a subjective view of a lady's demeanor during her trial and not really what the title of the video is a about. I hope people like this are brought to justice ⚖️.. Nikola motors.

  • Saul Goodman
    Saul Goodman13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was a before reporting job. She clearly lies about the technology that they were using.

  • David Evans
    David Evans13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Certainly a wake-up call for those who don't use their actual voices.

  • Connor Perez
    Connor Perez13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Doesn't surprise me that the pocketbooks are being better treated in this situation rather than the people.

  • Gowtham Natarajan

    Gowtham Natarajan

    11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @John Doe No

  • John Doe

    John Doe

    11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    was anyone seriously injured or killed as a result of her actions?

  • Digvijay Bokey
    Digvijay Bokey13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2:03 “it’s possible that she would be seeing jail time. She’s probably looking at jail” ?????

  • Animal Advocate

    Animal Advocate

    6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    She also said 20 years for each count consecutively.. Thats wrong too. Hmmmm

  • Tom Smith

    Tom Smith

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    that's a guarantee and the sentence will include the trial tax, you force them to take you to trial you serve more.

  • k05734

    k05734

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    she would be looking at jail from the outside

  • Thomas Jorna

    Thomas Jorna

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Weird editing probably, I think the first part is her repeating the interviewer's question/statement

  • ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣ
    ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣ10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There has to be a massive number of unemployed directors, managers, members of board, lawyers an analysts for not doing their jobs...This level of fraud needs the lowest level intelligence to grow, which they seem to have...

  • Brainstorming & sharing
    Brainstorming & sharing9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    🔴 Considering everything she did, she deserves a much, much more longer sentence ❗Considering that people from all over the world get the same or even longer sentences for much, much less than what she did ❗

  • Mehmet Filiz
    Mehmet Filiz7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We need to give her credit for her incredible courage and skills to fool everyone. *_Loki would be proud._*

  • Venom Snake
    Venom Snake11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's a wake up call to be even more ruthless in hiding their fraud

  • Peter 3.0
    Peter 3.04 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Due to misalignment of the retroencabulatory deficoses, we failed to meet customer-appropriate levels of marmelvanic revgerations, and became acombulatorily deficient through no fault of our own." ~Elizabeth Holmes, Engineer

  • Leanne Porter
    Leanne Porter9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How the hell did she get away with the patients or even the workers who worked for her. A con like her father....must be in the blood.

  • ً
    ً12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How can random people off the street with no knowledge on law decide if someone is guilty or not? US law is such a joke

  • Alltid Sömnig

    Alltid Sömnig

    12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Popularity contest model.

  • TimLee Lim
    TimLee Lim13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can't tell if the "you're a good mom" comment was sarcasm or not. The kid is going to grow up learning the mom ostensibly had him as a tactical move to save her own hide. He didn't do anything to deserve that and being born into riches as he is is not going to do much to alleviate the burden of that knowledge.

  • J G
    J G10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This should be a wake up call for all the pump and dump CEOs out there as well. Typically they are exposed. We don't want an over zealous regulatory response. However, too many companies are going public through SPACs which will increase criminal activity. It's too easy to create a company and bilk it once you've reached 2nd round and above. WeWork is a perfect example.

  • Dark Naga Adventures
    Dark Naga Adventures10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Both EH and SB should be locked up for 10-15 years. I do not see how she was not guilty of defrauding the patients. They were the ones most impacted since their lives were potentially at risk from these lies.

  • Heidelbergaren
    Heidelbergaren13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So when are the board of directors day in court ? Surely they either knew or are guilty of sleeping on the job

  • Rahul Pai
    Rahul Pai13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this video could have done with an intro on the case for people like me who are hearing about this for the first time

  • Liberty
    Liberty13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Snake charmer. I don’t know what she was selling but it sounds like she was a carnival act. I don’t understand why so many people believed it?

  • Mark Ewert
    Mark Ewert13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fraud is by no means limited to the startups in Silicon Valley. Very well established and sizable corporations are some of the worst offenders, selling software for millions of dollars that simply does not match the marketing spin.

  • burr
    burr11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wake-up call for startups? That would only apply if they're frauds.

  • Jin Mark
    Jin Mark10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like the way this reporter is glorifying perpetrator of a crime and trying to put positive spin on criminal behavior.

  • S S
    S S13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lol, I read the title and before I even begin to watch the vid, my first thought is, startups will never learn. Too much mula to miss out on.

  • Robin Lynch
    Robin Lynch13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's all about ego. The higher one climbs, the further they have to fall.

  • John Hmielewski
    John Hmielewski9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Plot twist, the rich investors were in to profit on the scheme the entire time until she started to get found out and that's when the investors turned on her so as to not be charged with her.

  • Jortiz
    Jortiz11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So in other words she was guilty of defrauding rich people but when it came to the poor people, she was then found innocent.

  • Gierlang Bhakti Putra
    Gierlang Bhakti Putra13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Worked in startups before. I am a bit sick of the culture. People talk about scalability and things. But rarely people talked about the products itself. Almost every discussion is about marketing and sales. Then they questioned why their products failed after millions were poured.

  • Zen
    Zen9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m guessing 10 - 15 years. I just hope she thinks her cell mates are crazy, then she fights them, then she changes world.

  • zxcy tdfxy
    zxcy tdfxy13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why isn't she thrown in jail already?

  • P W
    P W13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It is only a wake up for unethical pathological liars.

  • Goahead
    Goahead11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One thing I don't understand is that she was pretty sure that she was going to prison. Then she has a new born baby...

  • Violet Blue
    Violet Blue10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Holmes should put back all investor money to government so they can funding real health tech research. No need to jail her. Blacklist her and take all her investor money.

  • James G
    James G11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It is a wake up for ‘start ups’ if they are going to defraud the public and investors and be a complete sociopath like Holmes.

  • Stuart Dryer
    Stuart Dryer13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The due diligence on Theranos should have been pretty simple. Nobody did it.

  • NoZenith
    NoZenith13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's only a wake-up call if they affect a bunch of really rich people. ie: Martin Shkreli

  • B B & G
    B B & G13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    More of a wake up call for crooked opportunistic investors!!

  • Swarnava Samanta
    Swarnava Samanta13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    She seemed more like a fangirl of her than an editor

  • Amy H

    Amy H

    10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Reporter: "The thing that I was struck by was her self possession and self control." Jury: The thing we were struck by was her smugness and pathological inability to show any remorse for her actions.

  • Ale Zuvic

    Ale Zuvic

    10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you think that? I think she was just being impartial, just trying to explain the legal concepts and implications without taking sides.

  • Christian Edelmann

    Christian Edelmann

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The talk about posture got me

  • Alexander Lee

    Alexander Lee

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    She’s a feminist role model. Why wouldn’t people fangirl over her?

  • water melon

    water melon

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    it's the verge. what do u expect

  • Felipe Torres
    Felipe Torres12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Silicon valley startups after this case: Everything has a back door. Hypocrite.

  • Eli
    Eli13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No loyalty among thieves🙄

  • Fix-It Fling
    Fix-It Fling12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    She’ll get house arrest for a few years and Sunny will get 20+.

  • anne weber
    anne weber2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Ummm, she didn’t come to realization - she knew everything

  • alwaysasn
    alwaysasn13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It would have been very helpful (for future reference) at the start of the video for you to give a 60 second rundown of who this Holmes is and why she was on trial to begin with. I had to stop watching 3 minutes in because I had 0 context.

  • STS
    STS13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think transparency is going to become more relevant in these start ups

  • Sandy Walker
    Sandy Walker10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A wake up call?😱 She should have been found guilty on all of them. COMPLETELY intentional. I can't believe the jury wasn't sure she intended on ripping off EVERYONE in the name of money and fame. She deserves the maximum. All the multitudes of people she defrauded.

  • Irnbruist
    Irnbruist13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    my favorite ikea lamp -- and great explanation of the trial verge

  • M Butler
    M Butler13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    More so a wake-up to liars and investors who greedily hand $ over smart vetting.

  • MMCXII
    MMCXII13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Verge once again out of touch with reality

  • MM

    MM

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @DrSpooglemon this isnt woke this is just being so anti-goverment and pro co-operations that you are willing to believe in a wild conspiracy instead of believing that a steve jobs impersonator committed fraud

  • DrSpooglemon

    DrSpooglemon

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Benjamin Dover How many levels of woke is this?

  • Benjamin Dover

    Benjamin Dover

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Name Checks Out the whole thing was a setup to remove her ownership of the company and transfer it to the high level ex-government people who were on the board of directors. And it worked. The company has changdd ownership and the moronic public believes they got the bad guy.

  • Name Checks Out

    Name Checks Out

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why do you say so? I'm genuinely interested why.

  • Tyrell Hall
    Tyrell Hall13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes because who going to end up in her situation doing what she did?????

  • Otacon Z
    Otacon Z13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    when will we know for how long she has to go to prison?

  • Gabriel Gonzales

    Gabriel Gonzales

    13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That hearing is months away.

  • MentalEdge
    MentalEdge9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why are we almost fangirling for this literal criminal?

  • apuleus
    apuleus13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How many Holmes are out there? She was only caught because her lies, ego and greed were too big. If it were not for the young Schultz who was brave enough to denounce them, they would have sailed peacefully to selling the company or to an IPO.

  • Animal Advocate

    Animal Advocate

    6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Selling the company of nothing?

  • BJ Vynz
    BJ Vynz6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I mean, she just wasn't good enough at PR and memes. There's a certain rich somebody that constantly and endlessly fails to deliver on his promises but hey, his investors don't care about any final product all they care about is the hype and so they don't stop investing.

  • Jan Sonshine
    Jan Sonshine11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It should be a wake-up call for all scam artists and narcissists. Start-up is what she pretended to be doing for a great idea- that was never real.

  • sasha moore

    sasha moore

    7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    She’s the biggest narcissist I’ve seen in a while! Wow. Astounding.

  • sasha moore

    sasha moore

    7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Exactly

  • Vishal
    Vishal12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is what happens when U start investing nd projecting ppl based on virtue signalling instead of innovation or scientific advancements.

  • Elephant man
    Elephant man12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Her new fiancé better watch out for an abuse charge if their relationship goes bust.

  • Quantum Math
    Quantum Math12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nope! it's a wake-up call for Scammers.

  • Animal Advocate
    Animal Advocate6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They do 20 years concurrently not consecutively. Thats a huge error... Yikes

  • Hindu Nanziri
    Hindu Nanziri11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Theranos may have had excellent prototypes, but did not make the exceptional real deliverables. 😕

  • Ariff Che Mohd Noor
    Ariff Che Mohd Noor13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No. It a wakeup call for liars.

  • Kiran PB
    Kiran PB8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is this a new form of journalism where you present the journalist as the expert?

  • Brown Sheep
    Brown Sheep12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think the Investors enabled her ... It's not just her, but the super rich who are partners in crime..

  • Oliver Sissonphone
    Oliver Sissonphone8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Found innocent? Holmes was found not guilty - not the same as innocent.

  • boxingjerapah
    boxingjerapah8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So she's guilty of de-frauding the investors but not harming the patients, even though it was her defrauding of the investors that gave her the money to harm the patients? Right. Only the damage to the rich guys really matters. Got it.

  • Mike Fishing
    Mike Fishing11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you really think people care about lying at a high level, once they get away with it for years? I'd say - not at all. I firmly believe believe people like that, given the severity of the crime - should be in prison for minimum 50 years with zero chance of parole. Some people like that, with a superiority complex, would become repeat offenders.

  • Mike Fishing

    Mike Fishing

    10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Ale Zuvic Absolutely. It sends a message. The message is: crimes will be severely punished. It's not rocket science. If the white collar crime prison sentences are greatly increased, with no chance of parole, there's a good probability the frequency of said crimes would decrease. The punishments are far too lax as it stands, for any form of physical harm to others.

  • Ale Zuvic

    Ale Zuvic

    10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And what do you do with people who kill? A thousand years?

  • Brainstorming & sharing
    Brainstorming & sharing9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    🔴 In a way it is really funny or what, that she considered her self some kind of a super genius like: Einstein, Newton, da Vinci, Archimedes, etc., While in reality she was the super genius of the absolute NOTHING ❗

  • 0 XIX
    0 XIX10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    qualifications: she can keep her posture under pressure and has a delayed cognition of severity

  • Morne Coetzee
    Morne Coetzee13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It should be a wake up call for regulators.... where were the checks and balances?

  • Blackbird
    Blackbird13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Self possession self control? She's nuts for real so yeah ofc.

  • viroxd
    viroxd13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We may have another Conrad Black (the first rich person to go to jail in over 300 years)

  • Kausar Niyazee
    Kausar Niyazee11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pretty face, IVY League pass out, Entrepreneur, Lady, Mom are all the attributes you want to see a person succeed at all costs, so the BS goes further than what others are capable of.

  • Amy H

    Amy H

    10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    True

  • Brooke Woody
    Brooke Woody13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does anyone know what kind of time she will really do that's what I'd like to know not the other Goofy details?

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